January 18, 2020

Apple II – Apple's most important computer (new edit)

I grew up with the Apple II – it was my first ever computer. I’m an old-school Apple guy. In this video I give a basic introduction to the Apple II system and its internal competition with the Mac before showing off my own personal IIc and IIGS. This video ended up a little more serious than I originally intended, but I guess I have a certain reverence for the subject matter. And you can tell I’m a Woz fan, though my thoughts on Jobs are probably a little more complex than you’d guess solely from this video.

This is a new edit with my new intro/outro and LPCM audio (should be better sound). This is one of my most important videos to me personally, so I wanted it to be its best.

I promised a few helpful links in case you’re interested in some of the things I mention in the video:

Floppy Emu: http://www.bigmessowires.com/floppy-emu/
ADT Pro: http://adtpro.sourceforge.net/
Ciderpress: http://a2ciderpress.com/

Find an Apple IIGS on Ebay: http://ebay.to/2mI29Rt

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And some image attributions:

Apple II+, IIe, IIe Platinum, III Plus By Bilby (Own work) [CC BY 3.0 (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0)], via Wikimedia Commons

Apple Lisa: Simon Claessen

Apple IIGS cards: Blake Patterson

Mac Prototype: Victor Grigas

Commodore 1541: Nathan Beach

Atari 1050: MOS6502

Frying eggs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01jIeSnP0lI

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31 thoughts on “Apple II – Apple's most important computer (new edit)

  1. You don't have some sort of hard drive? I had a RAMFast SCSI card and an external HD. I kept my DuoDisk when I uograded grom the //e to //gs. My parents didn't understand why I wanted a //e over the newer //c, and it was exactly as you stated… expandability. Wish I had kept both.

  2. Is it possible to change out the Western Design Center chip with a faster version?  I remember the Apple IIgs and it was my favorite computer to use at that time!

  3. Although my parents didn't break down and break down and buy a computer until 1999, the Apple IIGS was the first computer I ever used. The grade school i attended had a lab full of IBM PS/2 all-in-ones, but as kindergartners in 1995 we didn't get computer lab time like the higher grades did and we had a much different computer in our classroom than the clunky looking gray/cream IBMs I later used in the lab. I really only remember playing some sort of dinosaur game and using a paint-like program, but i remember that rainbow colored Apple logo and the matching COLOR printer(something that really amazed me at six years old). I'm currently on the hunt for an Apple II at a reasonable price, hopefully a GS but I'll likely settle for a IIc since they seem to be the most plentiful.

  4. In hindsight, the Mac ended up being the better path for the company. The main reason is that the 68k processor line continued to match, or exceed, the Intel x86 offerings. Hence, we got 68030 and 68040 Macs that were able to handle computationally very demanding graphical type of work that Mac had ownership of through the mid 90s. In contrast, the 65816 and the derived 6502 parent had zero future path for similar growth to match the x86 line. In the alternate reality where Apple hedged everything on the //GS line and similar offsprings, cash would have simply dried up sooner once the 8 bit line phased out as the //GS line just wouldn't have held a chance against the giant steam roller of the IBM PC compatible machine. Jobs' NeXT platform would be totally incompatible with the //GS line so there would have been no resurrection of bringing Jobs back possible and the company would have gone bankrupt sometime in the mid to later half of the 90s.

  5. It seems that Jobs was an idiot who was more concerned with trying to secure his own power within the company rather than helping to release the right product for the market. The lack of support for the IIGS and other computers of its kind just shows how Apple became the computer firm that was the antithesis of gamers and value for money. Also the nutering of the CPU in the IIGS really shows why the best Apple you could get back then was an Amiga.

  6. When the IIgs was popular most of us used a Hard Drive, now a good option is a device that uses a CF card as a hard drive. Floppies were never that common on the IIgs, except as a way to distribute software, and many IIgs programs require a hard drive.
    For nostalgia you want original common config, which included an accelerator for most people, and again a lot of software requires an accelerator.

  7. imagine using a apple 2c in 1993…. I'll top that, it was my first computer I had from 94 to 96 lol
    regret getting rid of it for a windows 95 computer when my parents gave it and everything I had to the local fire haul
    i just bought an apple 2gs (woz edition) + expansions and floppy emu last December, sadly I have no floppy drives and software for it

  8. I learned how to write video games on my Atari from reading an Apple II about video game programming. They both had a similar high res screen, so I could use the book. Many of the earliest Atari games were ports of Apple II games and they ran even better on my Atari (it's 6502 CPU was clocked about 80% faster than the Apple). Thank you Apple.

  9. I still have my Apple //c from when I was a kid, but I was really, really little in the 80s. And, unfortunately, my //c has every 8th column of pixels blacked out, so you can't tell if you're looking at a lowercase o or a lowercase q, sometimes. It's annoying. Any advice on how that could possibly be fixed?

  10. The Apple IIgs' design was so sleek! I really miss those designs from the 80s (including the Atari ST, Amiga, Acorn and some of the Apricots).

  11. Jobs should have focused on the IIgs. He could have released a IIgs in a Mac form factor with a 9" hi-res color monitor, 16 bit 8 MHz processor, built-in 3 1/2 floppy drive, multimedia sound, 1 Mbyte of RAM with a GUI OS for under a thousand dollars back in 1984. The original Mac had 128k RAM, monochrome graphics and was just too expensive for most.

  12. Finely, one last comment. You said that the Bondi-blue iMac G3 did have any significant impact on the computer world the way the Apple II did, I would disagree. While its indeed true that the translucent or other colors/dsesign scenes of the iMac G3 series did not catch on the PC side, it’s is true that the idea of computers looking like something other then just boring beige was something consumers wanted did I start with iMac. iMac also helped push USB, built-in ethernet as standard (on a consumer machine), built-in 802.11b wireless, and floppy-less systems. It was nice not having to install a Ethernet card on iMac to get broadband internet in ‘97. Sure the iMac didn’t influence the computer market to the same degree as the Apple II or the Mac 128/512 but it did have some influence.

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